Posts by Evidently Apostate

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The Watchtower and the Occult

by brotherdan in

came across this interesting expose' on some of the occultic influences that took place during the watchtowers creation.

the implications are very interesting.. .

i had never heard about their use of phrenology...but apparently they believed it to be true.

i can see pagan symbolism in the old WT and i believe the WT used information from an occultist when compiling thier bible, but even if there was occult rituals and animal sacrifices going on after leaving WT wasnt looking, it would not matter to me. they are misleading innocent godfearing indivduals for profit, thus the leadership IS working for the devil. voodoo not nescasary

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another family destroyed by jehovahs happy organization

by Evidently Apostate in

as i sit down and type this i have realized that if i could have seen into the future and known that this post would need to be created (for my own peace of mind anyway) i know i would have never given the jws a minute of my time.

a little background: i have been a jw for 20 years and found a wonderful woman in the religion she was a pioneer when i met her, an elders girl but that did not matter to me , it was and always has been her compassion and love for people that endeared me to her and we have been happily married for almost my 20 year tenure as a jw.

we have several children one of them is a teenage boy.

Evidently Apostate

3d1h, i too just want to be free

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my blueprint for saving my family

by Evidently Apostate in

for over a year i have felt the borg is a cruel hurtfull religion that would swallow up empathy for forced unity.

my wife has said to me that telling her how i believe the org is not gods channel and the many doctrines put in place are nothing but a shroud covering up control tactics is like telling her i have a terminal illness.

this has not swayed my research nor has her pressure to continue going to meetings.

Evidently Apostate

rta, i am texting my niece everyday(the one in the motel) so far she is holding up. unfortunatly the family will not update me or my wife about either of them we hear things from the one that stays with us so i am getting bits and pieces of info. she is still lonely and very defensive. i am using the same approach with her as i have my wife and she will respond to my texts but has not taken us up on our offers to stay with us. thank you for asking

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WT Society Has to be Forced by Courts to Reveal Hidden Child Abuses

by flipper in

in one of the new pieces of information in the new elders manual - section 5:18 - it shows how elders are instructed to keep all judicial committee information private from media or attorneys.

keeping in mind how secretive the wt society has been in hiding child abuse within the jehovah's witnesses notice these instructions to elders now.. it states, " if a member of the media or an attorney representing the accused ( or possibly victims ) contacts the elders , they should not give him any information about the case or verify there is a jc.

rather, they should give the following explanation, " the spiritual and physical welfare of jehovah's witnesses is of paramount concern to the elders, who have been appointed to " shepherd the flock ".

Evidently Apostate

why stop with individual court cases, go for the files at crooklyn bethel. send all the pedo bastards to a puond me in the a@# prison

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my blueprint for saving my family

by Evidently Apostate in

for over a year i have felt the borg is a cruel hurtfull religion that would swallow up empathy for forced unity.

my wife has said to me that telling her how i believe the org is not gods channel and the many doctrines put in place are nothing but a shroud covering up control tactics is like telling her i have a terminal illness.

this has not swayed my research nor has her pressure to continue going to meetings.

Evidently Apostate

gramdma, i am truly happy for your success, i wish my grandma helped me by seeding doubts years ago

brodan, i was thinking of you as i typed this, your a man of conviction and emotion not unlike myself. good luck with your wife she will come through it will take lots of time, and no matter where you two end up your children will always have thier dad.

honesty, i am sorry it did not work, hopefully life is good for you

3d1h and leaving , i hope to get there someday

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WT Society's Sly Guilt & Fear Tactics on Young People in Nov.15th WT

by flipper in

jw
friends

as many on this board are aware- the wt society is losing younger members in big numbers.

statistics show that 2 out of 3 jw's raised in the cult leave between the age of 18 to 35. so like they always do- if the wt society sees a " need " or " problem " arising they address it in wt study articles.

thus notice how manipulative the wt society uses fear, guilt, and put down type comments to intimidate young jehovah's witnesses in this wt study article in nov. 15th issue.. under the titled article " young ones - what will you do with your life ?

Evidently Apostate

i am impressed so many teens are going to college in my hall my son included. the best answer to their condemnation is a succesful "worldly " life

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my blueprint for saving my family

by Evidently Apostate in

for over a year i have felt the borg is a cruel hurtfull religion that would swallow up empathy for forced unity.

my wife has said to me that telling her how i believe the org is not gods channel and the many doctrines put in place are nothing but a shroud covering up control tactics is like telling her i have a terminal illness.

this has not swayed my research nor has her pressure to continue going to meetings.

Evidently Apostate

ding; thanks i expect we will be going through many difficulties and setbacks similar to others on this forum. this forum has become a form of therapy to me sometimes times its just from reading different ones stories. ironic how pain and healing are universal.

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my blueprint for saving my family

by Evidently Apostate in

for over a year i have felt the borg is a cruel hurtfull religion that would swallow up empathy for forced unity.

my wife has said to me that telling her how i believe the org is not gods channel and the many doctrines put in place are nothing but a shroud covering up control tactics is like telling her i have a terminal illness.

this has not swayed my research nor has her pressure to continue going to meetings.

Evidently Apostate

for over a year i have felt the borg is a cruel hurtfull religion that would swallow up empathy for forced unity. my wife has said to me that telling her how i believe the org is NOT gods channel and the many doctrines put in place are nothing but a shroud covering up control tactics is like telling her i have a terminal illness. this has not swayed my research nor has her pressure to continue going to meetings. i have never shown her any "apostate" sites or printed material as i feel this would turn her off and possibly bring out a negative response and even though some heated discussions have taken place i have always listened to her, tactfully pointing out the flaws and coldhearted tactics by the org and her supposed friends employ. this has slowly allowed her to piece together her own doubts and i feel anyone as ingrained as my wife into this religion must search for themselves without pressure. i say these things not to brag, just to lay out my gameplan to anyone that might be able to use it themselves. lately our children have been given several birthday party invites and when she tells me about them i ask her why she thinks they are so bad that our children bear the pressure and personal responsibility of holding up doctrines and gods righteousness based on simplistic interpretations not direct commands from the scripture. this approach over time(asking questions rather than giving answers) has produced more benefits for her than any article from freeminds or any other site(she is not ready for them yet). in the past months she has stated "i dont know what to believe anymore, you do not believe in it". i have always avoided running with her statements and choose to let her continue or i will say" i just have some problems with the lack of love in the org and have proven to myself that brooklyn bethel does not have divine authority" siting known examples.

well yesterday she and i were talking about the birthday invitaitions again and a few other things and she just broke down into tears and looked up at me (i was working on a ladder) and calmly said " i get it now, you make scense and i dont know what to do, everone seems programmed". i swear i almost fell off the ladder, she continued and told me how talking to her mother about being more caring and less judging of her grandchildren has only proven to her that love is second to unity in this org. i gave her a big hug and she said she dosent know what she belives anymore and i responded " you have always lived by love and compassion, that is enough" ( i dont know how i though of that as fast as i did) i also stated i do not know all the answers and just want us to be a happy family.

so hopefully we can begin our slow fade and maybe soon i will introduce her to this forum. i want to stress to members that are still with believing JWs that i pray for you and sometimes become emotional when i read your pain and in no way want to gloat or offend you, maybe this post can be encouraging

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First official shunning was AWESOME

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

we went to target this weekend to look at halloween costumes for the kiddos (and maybe me - i'm still a kid at heart).

my daughter and i were walking down a main aisle when an ex-friend - the very one who testified that i refused to discuss my doubts - came out of a side aisle and almost turned our direction.

we made eye contact and i gave him a nod as we continued to walk toward him.... but he stopped like he'd run into a brick wall, then turned and started walking with his back to us so that we didn't cross paths.. my daughter pipes up and says, "hey, daddy, isn't that [edit]??

Evidently Apostate

they have lost any authority over you and your family. my family is starting down the same path just at the beginning of our freedom, i cant wait to go costume shopping for halloween with the kids some day. congrats